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Irish model-turned-TV star Vogue Williams has taken to motherhood like a duck to water.
After saying “I do” to former Made In Chelsea favourite Spencer Matthews, 32, in 2018, the couple are now parents to their adorable son, Theodore, two, and nine-month-old daughter, Gigi.
And when we give Vogue, 35, a call to catch-up about family life, it’s clear to see she’s savouring every moment as a parent. “I love everything about being a mum,” she beams. “You have your days where you think, ‘God, I’m not doing a good job this week,’ – but that’s completely natural.”
As well as being a mum, Vogue is a host on Heart radio and has her very own podcast with Spencer called Spencer & Vogue, which keeps listeners up to date with their busy lives.
Here, Vogue lifts the lid on juggling two children with work, expanding her brood and overcoming abuse from trolls…
Vogue Williams comforts 'poor little puppy' son Theodore as he recovers from a fall at home
Vogue Williams and Spencer Matthews beam on sunny day out with son Theodore, two, as family enjoy scooter ride
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Hey Vogue! What is the best thing about being a mum?
Everything. I love being a mum. At the moment, watching Theodore and Gigi play is just my favourite thing in the world. It’s so cute. He’s so gentle with her. Obviously, he wasn’t at the start, but it’s Gigi we have to look after because she scratches his face, but he’s really persistent. Walking through the door and seeing their excited faces is so wonderful. I want to spend as much time as I can with them. I’ve always wanted to be a mum – I was very into dolls when I was younger, and now I’ve got my very own real-life dolls.
What would you say is the hardest thing about being a parent?
It’s really full-on. You don’t realise how full-on it is until you become a mum. You realise when you have kids how much your own mother did for you which you may have never thought about before. It’s really full-on, but I wouldn’t change anything about it. The no sleep was hard at the start but there’s no part of it that I could never do again. I think everyone has little hurdles. Weaning can be a nightmare.
Can it be a big juggle dealing with two kids?
Yeah, it can be a juggle and you don’t have much free time to yourself. But I think when you first have a baby you’re really nervous. I was so nervous about going to the park on my own and I didn’t know if I’d get out the door on time. When you have your second baby, you feel the same. You wonder how you’ll get out the door with two kids, but then you get in the swing of it. I would worry if I had a third child I’d feel that way again, but you just get on with it.
Do you have a lot of mum friends that you confide in?
If I ever have any questions I always ask my mum or Spenny’s mum. The best advice I’d give to a parent is don’t listen to anyone else because you don’t need it. You know what you’re doing as a parent and you’ve got to trust that. A lot of people look for too much advice when they don’t need it.
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Do you feel like you’ve taken to motherhood well?
As well as anyone else can! You have your great days where you feel like you’re doing it all perfectly, then you have your days where you think, “God I’m not doing a good job this week.” That’s completely natural.
Do you feel like your family is complete now?
Our family is amazing the way it is, but I would love more children. Hopefully that works out for us! The plan is definitely to have more kids. People think I’m mad when I say that, but the dream would be to have four kids. There’s some days where we think we can have five, then we don’t have a good night’s sleep and realise five is too much [laughs].
Is Spencer a hands-on dad?
Yeah. I think it’s really helpful if you have a partner who’s super hands-on and he has been from the very start. He’s always around and I’ve never felt like I’ve been on my own. He’s great.
Who’s the stricter parent of the two of you?
Me. I only say that because I was recently putting Theodore to bed and I didn’t want him to have any more milk, but he immediately used the tactic to ask his daddy. So I’d say they get more out of Spenny than they do out of me.
Why do you think that is?
I know what Theodore is up to and I’m alright with a bit of a tantrum, whereas Spencer will just give in. Which is fair enough!
How do you and Spencer keep the romance alive?
We like to have nice date nights. It’s important to find time to do stuff on our own. So we’re always trying to think about fun things that we can do together.
What was the last date night you had?
We went out to a restaurant when the lockdown lifted – it was really lovely! I think it’s really important to fit stuff like that in. Obviously it’s nowhere near as much as we used to, but we do what we can.
Would you say you have traditional roles?
No. I don’t know what one is any more. We both work really hard. I mean, he does absolutely zero housework – he’s got worse since the children have arrived! But anything to do with the kids is pretty even.
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What’s the secret to your happy marriage?
We’ve been together for four years and we are best pals. I know that sounds so cliché, but there’s genuinely nobody I’d rather spend my time with. We have such a laugh together. We still get in fits of giggles where we can’t stop laughing. I think it’s important to have a really good friendship as the basis. We do spend a lot of time together and enjoy each other’s company.
Would you and Spencer ever do another series of your reality show, Spencer, Vogue And Baby Too?
No. We loved it when we did it, but it was so full-on. Trying to do that with two kids would be so hard. I don’t think Spenny would even have the time because his clean liquor [business] takes up so much of his time.
Have you got anything nice planned for Gigi’s first birthday in July?
Not at the moment. I don’t know what’s going to happen. Hopefully we can do something nice. But I’m just dying to get back to Ireland! As soon as that can happen that’ll be great.
Have you missed your family in Ireland?
Yeah, big time. I used to go home all the time so not being able to do that has been pretty tough.
You recently said how you “didn’t want to make any one feel bad” about how quickly you lost weight after having Gigi. Is this something you often struggle with?
It’s not really the way I said it. It rose from people discussing people’s bodies all the time. Whether someone is pregnant or not pregnant, there’s too much pressure put on other people’s bodies. I know Kate Lawler was saying that somebody was skinny-shaming her because she’d lost her baby weight.
I also saw a similar thing with Emily Ratajkowski who lost her baby weight. Everybody’s body is different. Some people find it really hard at the start, others don’t. Laura Whitmore did an amazing post which she had a load of abuse for. But that’s her reality – I don’t think she should hide that she’s in a good place. It’s not the case for everybody but it’s important to remember when you’re speaking to anyone, especially a mother, your hormones are all over the place.
Is that how you felt when people made comments?
I remember I didn’t feel great in myself. I felt really weepy all the time. Then to have people always commenting really annoys me. It then annoys me to see it happening to other people. I was called fat and disgusting when I was seven-months pregnant. Then you’re told you’re concentrating on losing weight rather than looking after your baby. There’s so much trolling from people about everything. I think it’s amazing that Kate is super honest about finding it hard. My whole thing was stop commenting on women’s bodies all the time – it’s so relentless and the conversation is so boring. People are much more than the way they look. You don’t see people commenting on men’s bodies like you do about women’s.
Are the comments mainly on Instagram?
I think they are everywhere. They’re on online forums or hate forums. I don’t get a really bad time with it. On my Instagram, most are lovely people. I just wonder what happened to being nice and I honestly think it’s getting worse.
Do you look at the comment sections?
I do, yeah, but I try not to. I love the group of people I have following me on Instagram. I talk to them a lot. They are on the same path as me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but you don’t need to have an opinion on anyone else’s looks.
Tell us about the new Fairy Platinum Pods. Are you using them every day?
I’ve used Fairy my whole life. My mum used it, and you stick with what you know. In Ireland, the Fairy mum is a huge deal. So when they asked me to be the Fairy mum I was overjoyed.
And as a Fairy Non Bio advocate, housework must be important to you. How do you find time to fit it in?
I feel like my washing machine is going to break with the amount of washing we do – it’s insane. I do have someone who helps with the kids. It’s important to be open about that – I couldn’t do everything without them. I can’t leave the kids alone when I go to my radio show! But I’m such an organiser. I never really sit still.
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